Enstrom

hannetonIII · Veteran Member - Level 2

Enstrom

Pepper · Veteran Member - Level 3

There was no F-27. But great list anyway.

failcopter67 · Veteran Member - Level 1

hannetonIII wrote:
Enstrom 480 - four-seat version of Model 280L "Hawk" design
480 - Initial version with five-seat(?( (two plus three) configuration with staggered seating

Confusing. But I can clear it up... it was the prototype constructed from the 280FX airframe which had a strict seating of 4. Further design studies allowed the installation of a fifth seat into the production designs, I believe in a 2-by-3 layout.

Gunship · Veteran Member - Level 3

Pepper wrote:
There was no F-27.

Oh no???

http://www.enstromhelicopter.com/enstrom_new/enstrom_history_1960.html

Pepper · Veteran Member - Level 3

Gunship wrote:
Pepper wrote:
There was no F-27.
Oh no???
http://www.enstromhelicopter.com/enstrom_new/enstrom_history_1960.html

Silly me.

By the way, here is a diagram showing some of the 480 series seating arrangements.

Air_Gopher · Veteran Member - Level 3

hannetonIII wrote:
F-28A - first production model

Commander31 · Veteran Member - Level 3

I have some to add to your list:

Enstrom Model-800 --- five-seat helicopter project with two Allison engines,

VIKI --- coaxial-rotor version, not sure if it was just a prototype or kit-mod, or an officially modified variant.

failcopter67 · Veteran Member - Level 1

Commander31 wrote:
VIKI --- coaxial-rotor version, not sure if it was just a prototype or kit-mod, or an officially modified variant.

No kidding? By which firm?

Air_Gopher · Veteran Member - Level 3

The VIKI coaxial helicopter

attachment.php?attachmentid=46675&d=1211033278

http://www.rotaryforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10464&page=7

hannetonIII · Veteran Member - Level 2

Whoa.... I didn't expect this thread to fill up so fast! Thanks for all the cool stuff. I've added those other ones to the list.

hesham · Veteran Member - Level 3

Commander31 wrote:
I have some to add to your list:
Enstrom Model-800 --- five-seat helicopter project with two Allison engines,
VIKI --- coaxial-rotor version, not sure if it was just a prototype or kit-mod, or an officially modified variant.

You must give the source;

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4354.msg34485.html#msg34485

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1975/1975%20-%200177.html?search=vought%20projects

Walter · Member

Thanks Gunship, for the photo of the F-27. Never knew about this one, but it now seems that the first prototype had the 2-bladed rotor and a steel tube tail section and was known as the F-27, while the other 2 prototypes got the later standard 3-blade rotor and the fatter closed tail section (F-28).
Learning every day.
Regards, Walter

Agent-Purple · Veteran Member - Level 1

failcopter67 wrote:
Commander31 wrote:
VIKI --- coaxial-rotor version, not sure if it was just a prototype or kit-mod, or an officially modified variant.

No kidding? By which firm?

None, it was a private modification who'se owner died back in 2000. Engine is an Allison, it also has Hughes Model 500 avionics and hydraulic controlled cyclic column. The rotor system was a Gyrodyne, believe it or not.

It was really working, but I don't think it was ever flown.

kabomber · Veteran Member - Level 2

Hi HannetonIII, here is the Spitfire Mk. 1.

Pepper · Veteran Member - Level 3

No, what you have there is the Mk.2, second prototype.

Stingray · Administrator

Rudy Enstrom did some earlier homebuilt work too. Here's one of his designs from 1957:

https://sites.google.com/site/stingrayslistofrotorcraft/enstrom-homebuilt-helicopter

Leela25 · Global Moderator

Enstrom helicopters date that far back? O_o

And the VIKI model looks awsome. Shame it wasn't flown. cry

Leela25 · Global Moderator

The recent TH-180 isn't here (the one that crashed)

retroistic · Veteran Member - Level 2

hannetonIII wrote:
280FX (also called "Shark", or is this a mistake?) - updated Model 280F

Being called that on Enstrom's official website should answer that question.

The 480B was developed to meet New Training Helicopter (NTH) requirements for the Army to replace the UH-1 trainers at Rucker. Eurocopter AS.350 and Schweizer 269D competed too but the Bell 206B-3 was selected in 1993 (became the TH-67. 480B-G is equipped with the Garmin G1000H all-glass avionics suite.

-- Edited by retroistic on Friday 19th of February 2016 04:48:23 PM

hesham · Veteran Member - Level 3

Hi,

as I said before;

F-27 was a three seat light civil helicopter;

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4074.msg7083.html#msg7083

-- Edited by hesham on Sunday 21st of February 2016 07:51:43 AM

Leela25 · Global Moderator

Should I take the liberty of editing Hanneton's list in light of new information? He has a habit of disappearing for a long time thus prolonging these obsolete postings without updates. I'm a bit torn. :P

Stingray · Administrator

He consented to it before so go ahead.

hillberg · Veteran Member - Level 2

N1135 was a trainer , designed by an ex-employee at Enstrom , it has a standard swash plate and fly weights and paddles to reduce control forces, no doors as the body slides forward to exit, it was bought by a guy who contacted me for advise on it's rebuild (it had been sitting out too long) I told him to keep it stock. but he thinks he knows better...to bad, It could of been a goodie. It was a one off design.

Rafale D · Veteran Member - Level 1

Missing types here

T-28

F-28B

TH-180

480B-G

hesham · Veteran Member - Level 3

From Airlife's book; Helicopters & Rotorcraft,

the F-27 was a suggesting Model,also the variants for Enstrom.

Stingray · Administrator

hillberg wrote:
N1135 was a trainer , designed by an ex-employee at Enstrom , it has a standard swash plate and fly weights and paddles to reduce control forces, no doors as the body slides forward to exit, it was bought by a guy who contacted me for advise on it's rebuild (it had been sitting out too long) I told him to keep it stock. but he thinks he knows better...to bad, It could of been a goodie. It was a one off design.

Wait a minute, is that the same aircraft listed here?

hillberg · Veteran Member - Level 2

Yep and that's the seller of this machine... Small world

Stingray · Administrator

I just love when little puzzles like these get solved. Thanks for posting that tidbit!

I removed Air Gopher's erroneous post and reposted his attachment in the other topic, plus added some additional material. Me or Leela should get around to modifying the designation list soon in light of new info here and the parallel topic at SPF.