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hi,i am new to this forum.I stay in Bhutan and am really interested in ultralight helicopters.Just recently,I was surfing the net and saw the AW XH 1 hobby copter.As per my knowledge it is powered by a triumph motorcycle engine producing 40+ Hp.Its 1st prototype was powered by a triumph engine producing 35 hp..The company supplies plans plans and kits for its latest versions of the model.But i have doubts if the company still supplies plans for its first version which first flew in 1958.

I really want to build the 1st version on my own coz I am still a boy and can't afford for the latest versions;the first version is a bit simple i believe and won't cost me much in my country.But even if the company supplies these plans,are the plans registered and hoe clear are these plans?..Plz help me with my research.......Thanks a lot for any support.

I have attached an image of what i believe is the aw xh1's 1st prototype which was powered by 35 hp triumph engine  and flew in 1958.



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Welcome to the site, the basic kit you're searching for is also called the Choppy, or Model 101/102. The prototype was called XH-1. You're in for quite a treat, because via Google I found the homepage with everything you are asking for.

http://www.vortechonline.com/choppy/

Hope this helps! smile



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No Pepper, he is looking for plans for the prototype XH-1. Sorry but I don't think they will supply the original plans. You could ask the company yourself though. Pepper gave you a link with contact info. Good luck.



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Well the commercial plan form is still pretty cheap, about 35 US dollars.



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Pepper wrote:

Welcome to the site, the basic kit you're searching for is also called the Choppy, or Model 101/102. The prototype was called XH-1. You're in for quite a treat, because via Google I found the homepage with everything you are asking for.

http://www.vortechonline.com/choppy/

Hope this helps! smile


 

Did you see the new Choppy with full cab? Awesome! Looks like something Stingray and Rehan cooked up for their "GyroCobra" build. biggrin

Choppy_rt3qtr.jpg

Yeah OT, because I know this is more expensive than the simplified plans tsheten8 is trying to acquire.



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hi there,really thanks for your help.And I also hope that it will help.....thanks a lot

anyway,thanks ALLAN.but how should i ask the company?

hi,you mean the plan of the model xh1?

Allan,do you know anybody working in that company and who could help me with the original xh1 plans?



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tsheten8 wrote:

hi there,really thanks for your help.And I also hope that it will help.....thanks a lot

anyway,thanks ALLAN.but how should i ask the company?

hi,you mean the plan of the model xh1?

Allan,do you know anybody working in that company and who could help me with the original xh1 plans?


 

Sorry, buddy, I do not know anyone affiliated with the company nor am I familiar with their design work. However, you can visit the link in Pepper's post earlier in this topic. There you will find all the contact information you need, by telephone, email, fax, etc. wink



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sir,but i really want to build the prototype xh1.Recently,i was on the net and found some pictures of what i believe is the real prototype xh1.It was somewhere else in a aircraft museum.I have forgotten the name of the museum but i am sure that it was the model i am searching for.There was a triumph motorcycle engine mounted behind the pilot's seat and some sort of transmission consisting of sprockets and drive- chains.I have attached some images i downloaded from that site.I have also attached an image of xh1 which according to the researcher was built in the early 60s. Sorry, but i've forgotten that site.I only want sir to tell me if this really is the model am searching for.If it turns out to be it,then i may get some help from the museum site regarding the aircraft's specifications;about the dimensions and engine power etc.......Is it possible?



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hello pepper..just yesterday,i posted a mail to gunship and still didnt receive any reply..sir,all i really want is the model 101 plans..i think nobody is willing to help me..i have uploaded some pictures in my mail to gunship..wil u plz have some scan and give me a reply..and the link you provided me in your reply is more concerned towards the model 102..plz help me sir.A nd i have got a doubt....is the model 101 and 102 the same?I dont it is the same,right?



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tsheten8, according to my records Gunship has not logged in since his reply earlier. Please be patient, you can't expect instant results on any web forum.

Now to my own eye for recognition, I believe you have found the true prototype. You say this aircraft in the photos belongs to a museum? Then by all means, email them and I think you might get some helpful results.

Forgive are sluggish responses please, you are our first member asking for help on an actual build project here. wink



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tsheten8 wrote:

hello pepper..just yesterday,i posted a mail to gunship and still didnt receive any reply..sir,all i really want is the model 101 plans..i think nobody is willing to help me..i have uploaded some pictures in my mail to gunship..wil u plz have some scan and give me a reply..and the link you provided me in your reply is more concerned towards the model 102..plz help me sir.A nd i have got a doubt....is the model 101 and 102 the same?I dont it is the same,right?


 

Slow down, we're trying to help the best we can. Sorry for being offline, I had family business to attend to. 

I didn't recieve any mail from you, except for your reply to this topic. Now to answer your questions, I think that you have found the genuine prototype, but with a strange sheild or glazing (?) attached to the nose. This may indicate testing for future enclosed-canopy kit designs, such as the commercial "Choppy" kits.

If you want to build this original prototype, I suggest following Stingray's advice. Email the museum and maybe they will have all the answers, or will point you in the direction to someone who holds all the answers you are seeking.

With your last question regarding the designations, the Model 101 and 102 are strictly commercial kits. The XH-1 as you know is the one and only test aircraft you so aim to build.

If this isn't helping by all means keep coming with the questions. We're doing our best.

Good luck with your project. 



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Sorry sir..i had been impatient for a reply..apology for that..sir,i want to thank you for confirming my research..but i've forgotten the website of that museum..but i'll try to find it and email them..sir,wil u plz help me complete my project?..all i need is complete information the craft..i may need some help in between my construction process..i would remain grateful if sir n every body lend hands to complete my project..

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We of course will aim to help the best we can do. Here is a link with a good deal of information for now, and I will try to find more as soon as I can:

https://sites.google.com/site/stingrayslistofrotorcraft/adams-wilson-xh-1-hobbycopter



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Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams-Wilson_Hobbycopter

It looks like a snowmobile engine was used at some point too.



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Thanks a lot for your reply stingray..for now,i'll try to e mail the museum..

Allan,i am really very sorry for being impatient..i need to apologize you for that..and i think i'll follow stingray's advice for now..thanks a lot..



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Posts merged again...

No problem, and be sure to let us know what they tell you. wink



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The A/W XH-1 prototype at the Oregon Air and Space Museum

 

chopper5.jpg

 

http://www.cyclepsycho.com/chopper/chopper.html



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i am really very sorry stingray..the last time i posted the replies were all through cell phone internet and i am not familiar with it so the messages got merged..anyway air gopher has provided me the website of that museum..i'll contact them,as you advised me,and let everybody know...and i have got one request for you..will you also try to contact them,plz...

hi air gopher,thanks a lot for providing me the website of that museum...i'll contact them and let you too know...till then,bye..tsheten8..

hello pepper,thanks a lot for providing me that site...i have got a question,can a 30HP engine be used to power that machine?the information in that site says that the choppter designed for 50hp engine..



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Hi air gopher,i am sorry coz i couldnt reply you yesterday as i was offline..and i tried to contact them via the link they have provided on their site..i think i should contact them through my email account,rite?..but what's their email address?..

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tsheten8 wrote:

what's their email address?..


 

Good question. They don't seem to have one in their "contact" page. I'll try and find their email elsewhere, if it exists. 



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Thanks a lot 555..i'll also try..

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It seems they don't have one. They do, however, have a phone number. Would you be willing to call them to ask for this information instead?



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Hi 555,thanks a lot for trying your best to help me with their e-mail address...i also tried but couldnt find one..well,if they do have a call number you can post it to me...i will try to contact them...but if that too doesnt help,i will try other means to build my own copter...till then,bye.....tsheten8....



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tsheten8 wrote:

Hi 555,thanks a lot for trying your best to help me with their e-mail address...i also tried but couldnt find one..well,if they do have a call number you can post it to me...i will try to contact them...but if that too doesnt help,i will try other means to build my own copter...till then,bye.....tsheten8....


 

There's a number here:

http://oasm.org/company-info.html

And here:

http://www.oasm.info/contact_us.php

 

Good luck! And when you start the build, be sure to post photo or video updates. We'd love to see your plans come to life. wink



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thanks a lot stingray...but somehow,i have now decided not to contact that museum coz my parents were insisting me to buy plans of the aw choppy..they have decided to help me with my project..so plz dont mind sir..and everybody on this forum who had lended their hands till now,i am really very sorry...moreover,calling to oregon from bhutan would cost a lot i believe..so it would be better for me if i purchase the plans of the aw choppy...am i not rite?..

But i want somebody to help me with the purchase of the plan..

Will anybody help?..



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In that case it all ends up here again:

http://www.vortechonline.com/choppy/

Just ask them for the prototype plans. If they don't have them, then get the cheapest commercial kit version (I suggest the Model 101). You can easily convert it to the specifications of the original prototype when you build it, or add special modifications of your own as long as they are safe and legal.

Again, good luck.



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Thanks a lot for your support stingray..i've decided to join a technical institute here in bhutan to pursue my dream for technical education..there we've got all the equipments that i'll require to build my choppy...but how will it take for the plans to reach bhutan from the date of purchase?..

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hi everybody,i recently got the plans for the aw choppy.but the plans aren't as clear as expected..the drawings are not clear...i have also got the construction plans for furia helicopter which i downloaded from a site..there are only 79 pages..i have doubts if the plan is complete..does anybody on this forum know about it?Thanks for any help in advance....



-- Edited by tsheten8 on Monday 11th of July 2011 11:32:23 AM

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Mister Tsheten, you may not like this, but someone recently uploaded full Choppy plans at the scribd website. (sigh) Wouldn't it have been helpful if they did so a little earlier? no

Anyway, I just got through reading and it looks fairly simple enough. But that's my opinion because I'm use to complicated construction plans. 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/18192978/5141841-Choppy-Helicopter-Plans1

Tell you what, if you're having difficulty understanding it, consult a professional and perhaps they can guide you through the process. If not possible, just paste the drawings you don't understand into this topic. I might take a swing at it.



-- Edited by Gunship on Monday 11th of July 2011 04:24:11 PM

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